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cBridge Talkgroups and Routing Information

Keeping track of what, where and how talkgroups propagate on the DCI/TRBO-6 cBridges (Talkgroup Matrix)

We have already found it easy to get lost in how things have been set up.  It is easy to create loops across cBridges when changing current routes and more especially when adding a cBridge to an existing cBridge or network of cBridges.  This is an early effort to document our routings to simplify making changes later.  This would also help other cBridge operators in setting up their routing if linking to us directly or via other cBridges.  Or so we think.  Here's our System Map to help visualize our approach and it shows Mapping in place while the set-up details may show port links as we are still transitioning from a single cBridge group to a 2 cBridge group.  The Talkgroup Matrix is the best operational reference for the DCI cBridges current talkgroup routing.

The premise is to make the priority for "Mapped" ("cBridge to cBridge" connections) links between cBridges rather than using the limited and expensive ports on a cBridge.  By Mapping a link, it frees up what would otherwise have taken up a port on each cBridge.  A peer or master IPSC manager should only be used to get an IPSC network on a cBridge.  From there, ideally, a network of cBridges will then handle all the linking/routing that is desired.  This of course requires more cBridges, which certainly can be an issue with ham clubs and individuals.

DCI's Quick List of Links

Primary DCI TG Linked to: Linked to: Linked to: Notes
DCI Comm 1 T-6 Comm 1 NorCal 1   Main DCI and TRBO-6 Talkgroup on TS-1
DCI Comm 2 T-6 Comm 2     Secondary DCI and TRBO-6 Talkgroup on TS-2
DCI DCI 1       DCI cBridge Talkgroup on TS-1
DCI DCI 2       DCI cBridge Talkgroup on TS-2
DCI Wash 1       Washington State Repeaters on TS-1
DCI Wash 2       Washington State Repeaters on TS-2
DCI Roundtable 2 T-6 Roundtable 2     Rag-chew or roundtable discussions
DCI Worldwide 2 DMR-MARC 1      
DCI North America 2 DMR-MARC 3      
DCI Test 1       New Repeater testing prior to use of Comm 1

Red = Full Time Permanent  /  Green = Temporary or Experimental  /  Blue = Testing, subject to changes
All Net is home for new peer connections to the DCI Open Demo port, links to other TG's or networks is variable.

The following tables are more illustration or internal management than operational

DCI's Port Link and Mapping Details

cBridge Talkgroup TG ID # Type Link # Linked to Notes
DCI Comm 1 03777215 Port 1-3-5-7 TRBO-6 Permanent  (Link 1-30 only)
DCI Comm 2 03777216 Port 2-4-6-8 TRBO-6 Permanent
DCI Round 2 03017501 Port 2-4 TRBO-6 Permanent
TRBO-6 Comm 1 03777215 Map 1 in NorCal Permanent  (Link 1-99 only)
DCI Worldwide 3161 Port 6 DCI "Worldwide 2" on TS-2
DCI Worldwide 3161 Map 2 out DMR-MARC Worldwide 2
DCI North America 3163 Port 2-6-8 DCI "North America 2" on TS-2
DCI North America 3163 Map 6 out DMR-MARC  
DCI Comm 1 03777215 Map 4 out SF Trbo "Comm 1" on TS-1
Port 1 & 2=DCI IPSC  /  Port 3 & 4=TRBO-6 IPSC  /  Port 5 & 6=DCI Open Demo IPSC  ( P1,2,5,6 to change to "Mapping" soon)
 

DCI's Cross Patch Management Details

cBridge Talkgroup TG ID # Link # Linked to Notes
DCI Comm 1 3777215 123   Not normally cross-patched
DCI WorldWide  2 3161 124   Not normally cross-patched
DCI Sup All Net   100   Future
DCI North America 2 3163 113   Not normally cross-patched
DCI Test 1 3166 125 DCI 1 Initial testing for new repeater
DCI DCI 1 3160 125    
 

This list below shows various talkgroups (in concept) and their purpose and/or need.  Not all need be used or used across all cBridge ports as this is a concept idea to stimulate thought and discussion on how to best bring a cBridge onto multiple IPSC networks.

The names listed are intended to be more descriptive for understanding and not necessarily meant to be the final name. 

Using the same talkgroup names across the networks (where possible even if a different TG number) will reduce confusion.  If networks use multiple TG's frequently (common on TRBO-6) it is helpful when calling, to announce which TG you are using and now maybe which network you are on or cBridge you are using.

While using multiple TG's for various purposes may be handy, the downside to too many TG's is that there is likelihood of congestion on the Time Slots so a balance is likely wise.  The DCI network is implementing this idea and so far, has All Net and Roundtable in active service.

Worldwide
3161
Talkgroup used as the DCI cBridge assigned block default to patch to selected DCI networks.  Each cBridge operator should have their own block of TG number assigned to their cBridge.  Now using the new 4 digit ID blocks assigned by DMR-MARC.
North America
3163
Same as above
Super All-Net
3153193
Talkgroup that is for maximum communications across ALL networks.  It should be the main TG on every network for use in an emergency or priority condition or possibly for lesser use as a net or roundtable channel.  It should not be the actual TRBO All-Call TG as some network do not use All-Call due to it's unique and sometimes counter-productive affects on talkgroup and RX group controls.
Roundtable2
03017501
Talkgroup common TG for general rag-chewing, cBridge discussion, etc., optionally implemented per IPSC Network.
Sysops
not published
Talkgroup for all network managers.  Typically only one or two people per network for more private level discussions.  (hardly secret any longer with all the tools out there now) This is optional and All-Net Owners may be sufficient.
All-Net Owners
not published
Talkgroup for all repeater owners across all networks.  Again, optional as needed or desired.
 

Revised: 04/22/2012 07:25

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